Editing Symbol Definitions

Most of a black symbol’s physical attributes cannot be directly changed from the Object Info or Attributes palette. Instead, the components of a symbol must be accessed and edited through the Edit Symbol window. Changes made to a symbol definition affect all existing and future instances of that symbol, unless the symbol was inserted as a group (blue) or plug-in object (red).

Editing a symbol from the drawing area allows you to edit the symbol definition from within that symbol instance. Other objects in the drawing can be visible, grayed, or hidden depending on two settings in the Display tab of the Vectorworks preferences: Show other objects while in editing modes and Gray other objects. When other objects are visible, they are also snappable, which makes it is easier to edit the symbol quickly and accurately.

The Show other objects while in editing modes preference does not work when editing a symbol definition from a flipped symbol instance; an alert message displays when this operation is attempted.

When editing page-based (green) symbols from the drawing area, the scale of the symbol editing window is set to 1:1 so that the symbol definition is the same size as the symbol instance, for ease of editing. The active layer scale cannot be changed from the document context menu while in the symbol editing mode. This is an exception for page-based symbols only. Due to the scale adjustment, other objects that are not part of the symbol definition are not snappable unless they are also at a 1:1 scale in the active layer.

Referenced symbols can be edited or renamed in the target file, which changes the symbol definition in the source file. See Referencing Resources.

Editing behavior and results depend on the symbol type (see Symbol Types).

Symbol Type
Edit Behavior/Result

Black or green

Edit from the Resource Browser or from the drawing. Changes to the symbol, whether made to the definition or the instance, affect both existing and future symbol instances.

Blue

Edit from the Resource Browser. Changes to the definition affect future symbol instances only. A blue symbol inserted on the drawing as a group cannot be edited from the drawing in the Edit Symbol window (make edits directly from the Object Info or Attributes palette, and by editing the group). Changes to a drawing instance affect that instance only.

Red

Edit from the Resource Browser. Changes to the definition affect future symbol instances only. A red symbol inserted on the drawing as a plug-in object cannot be edited from the drawing in the Edit Symbol window (make edits directly from the Object Info or Attributes palette). Changes to a drawing instance affect that instance only.

To edit a symbol definition:

  1. In the Resource Browser, select the symbol to edit, and select Edit from the Resources menu.

  2. You can also right-click (Windows) or Ctrl-click (Mac) the symbol, and select Edit 2D Component, Edit 3D Component, Edit 3D Wall Hole Component, or Edit Symbol Options. For plant symbols, Edit Definition (Vectorworks Landmark required) is also available from the context menu.

    Alternatively, edit a black symbol instance from the drawing using one of the following methods:

        Select the symbol and then select Modify > Edit Symbol.

        Double-click the symbol.

        Right-click (Windows) or Ctrl-click (Mac) the symbol, and select Edit from the context menu.

        To edit the components of a hybrid symbol directly, right-click (Windows) or Ctrl-click (Mac) the symbol, and select Edit 2D Component, Edit 3D Component, or Edit 3D Wall Hole Component from the context menu.

  3. Only one component of a hybrid symbol can be edited at one time. If the symbol is hybrid, the Edit Symbol dialog box opens. Insertion options and units can be specified when the symbol is edited from the Resource Browser, and additional double-click behavior for the dialog box can be specified when the symbol is edited from the drawing.

  4. Select the component to edit.

  5. Click Edit.

  6.     If Symbol Options is selected, the Symbol Options dialog box opens. See Creating New Symbols for information on wall insertion options and units.

        If one of the component options is selected, the Edit Symbol window opens, containing the symbol to be edited. A colored border around the drawing window indicates that you are in an editing mode. The Exit Symbol command becomes available from the Modify menu, and the Exit Symbol button is visible in the top right corner of the drawing window.

    To edit nested symbols, select Modify > Edit Symbol again.

    The visibility of other objects when in editing mode is controlled by the Show other objects while in editing modes option in the Display tab of the Vectorworks preferences (see Vectorworks Display Preferences). To show the other objects in a less obtrusive way, also select the Gray other objects option. If the symbol was edited from the Resource Browser, other objects cannot be displayed; edit a symbol instance from the drawing to display other objects while in editing mode. See Object Editing Mode for more information). If a page-based (green) symbol is being edited, the editing mode scale has changed to 1:1, and while other objects that are not at a 1:1 scale may be visible at their own active layer scale, they are not snappable.

    The Show other objects while in editing modes preference does not work when editing a symbol definition from a flipped symbol instance; an alert message displays when this operation is attempted.

    If you are pasting 2D layer plane objects from the clipboard while editing a symbol, an alert allows you to assign those objects to the screen plane. Normally, select Yes so that the 2D components display correctly in Top/Plan view.

    In addition, if you are editing a 2D-only symbol and adding 3D objects (including 2D planar objects) or hybrid objects, or editing a 3D-only symbol and adding screen plane or hybrid objects, an alert informs you that you are creating a hybrid symbol. Portions of the symbol may not be visible in certain views. Similarly, if removing portions of a hybrid symbol during editing, you may be creating a 2D-only or 3D-only symbol which may not display as expected in certain views. Keep in mind that 2D objects that are part of a symbol must be in the screen plane to be visible in Top/Plan view; if they are planar, they will be visible in 3D views. 3D objects that are part of a symbol are not visible in Top/Plan view.

  7. When editing components, make the symbol edits in the Attributes or Object Info palette. To edit the symbol insertion point, select all the components of the symbol, and relocate the components about the insertion point crosshairs. The intersection of the crosshairs gives the feedback segment Locus when encountered.

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    The other component of a hybrid symbol is not automatically adjusted to match changes made to the insertion point. It must be edited separately. Switch easily to the other component from the context menu.

  9. After editing, click the Exit Symbol button (or select Modify > Exit Symbol) to update all instances of the symbol and return to the normal drawing mode.

If the edited symbol is nested in other symbols, the Exit Symbol button returns back to the symbol container.

Editing the Symbol Options of Multiple Symbols

When multiple symbols are selected in the Resource Browser, it is possible to change the symbol options of all the symbols at one time.

To edit the symbol options of multiple symbols:

  1. Select the symbols in the Resource Browser.

  2. Select Edit Symbol Options from the Resources menu.

  3. The Symbol Options dialog box opens.

  4. The options are the same as those described in Creating New Symbols. However, the dialog box displays the current status of parameters for the selected symbols. When the parameter settings of the symbols are different, the option displays as blank, or a check box displays with an “indeterminate state;” any edits to that parameter affect all the selected symbols.

  5. If the selected symbols consist of a mixed set of symbol types, the available conversion options may differ (Convert to Group/Convert to Plug-in Object). Symbols are converted as described in Creating New Symbols.

  6. Click OK to edit the symbol options.

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Editing Symbols

Editing Symbol Default Record Values

Object Editing Mode

Converting a Symbol Instance to a Group

 

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